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of things going on in politics as ever. we had regional elections in spain. yields you can see slightly higher, but still well below 6%. now, these regional elections fairly important because we know catalonia has been pushing on on independence. now, it looks less likely we'll get that referendum, but not because people in catalonia are any less eager on a separatist movement. just that they didn't vote for the main guy who is proposing it. they voted for competitor party which is makes it slightly harder in the short term for them possibly to get a referendum going. so eases the pressure in the short term but means there is still a longer term problem there. catalonia is one of those regions that still has very large deficits, as well. so the politics in spain slightly skewed as they will be, but not so much pressure on rajoy at the moment. unlikely to ask for assistance in the short term. we also have another euro group meeting take, back in brussels, yes, i know, we seem to have one every week. they may come up with a long term financing deal for greece. finally talking about debt f
and the shareholders who elect these individuals allow companies to move assets to the highest form? john malone constantly spins off things shuffling paper. looking to not only grow intrinsic value, but allowing it to surface. if you just bought a basket of securities that dr. malone had over the years, you'd have compounded assets at about a 15% the last 20 to 30 years. buffett does something else, buys and holds. irene rosenfeld, i said she's going to buy cadbury, she took it, put it into a package, spun off kraft. mondelez is a fantastic asset. another example, hillshire, sarah lee, we talked about that spinning off. look at the pieces. what are the elements that are worth? hillshire is a company 120 million shares, the stock's around $25, $3 billion market cap, basically the company sells protein for breakfast, jimmy dean sausages, the sausage category, how big is it? >> might be a little fat -- >> lunch meat. joe -- >> well, it's sausage. i want it. i eat it, i want it. i'm telling you it's not all protein. this is good. >> hot dogs, joe. >> just sort of in a trance. it's sort of a relief,
. >> although the president is in a position, he's not running for re-election again, kind of look at things -- >> he's in a position of compromise you would think. 2014, if you can get a democratic house, then you can consolidate everything and you can get a democratic house how? by making them -- >> by saying the republicans are -- >> obstructionists, blah, blah, blah. >> and then you play for the last two years. >> playing to just consolidate all your redistribution. >> i get it, but also a tough way to play the game. >> did you see drudge? >> i did. >> bush 3. >> jeb bush talking about 2016. >> and then christy -- >> already talking about 2016. >> we are. and christie is getting his re-election campaign ramped up. he has unprecedentedly high approval rating. >> after sandy. and he says this is a job he feels leak he needs to continue. >> stanley wants him to stay. some other corporate news involving erickson. it's filed a lawsuit against samsung alleging patent infringement. ericcson says two years to trike a deal were unsuccessful. and an hp shareholder filed a lawsuit alleging the tech
've got a house election in two years -- less than two years. >> although, i don't think this is about electoral politics right now. this is about -- this is about dollars and cents for specific interest groups, constituents, supporters of these politicians and their ideological views. so, look, it's not easy to do. and i believe at the end they'll do it, but this is part of the dance, you know, before it gets super intense. >> and you know what else it is? it's sausage being made and it's ugly to watch. but then -- and then i think about closing loopholes. and name your loophole, and i can give you a two-year argument. mortgage. oh, it's going to kill the housing industry, charity, we can talk for two years, what will it do to charity? >> universities and -- yes. >> you name any sacred cow. that's why it's sacred, it's a sacred cow. >> state and local tax deductions, oh, my god, what's that going to do to new york? >> is it easier to do the cap and that gives you the nebulous, well, we're not hurting anyone -- >> yes. >> would that work? >> yes. i mean, a lot of tax policy experts lik
up to the election -- let's shovel out more unemployment. i'm excited. woo! >> if the potential growth rate is 2.5 -- >> is this what we're looking at next month? have you already had the secret meeting? >> i wasn't on the call for that one. my point is that there was enough growth in the third quarter to bring down the unemployment rate. >> if that's the growth that makes you and the world happy, you'll be happy for ten years. >> when you have growth above potential it's sufficient to bring down the unemployment rate. maybe the decline of the unemployment rate was actually for real. >> i'm one of those people -- >> you're not going to convince me. >> i was one of those people skeptical about the last unemployment number that we saw. that makes this unemployment number so much more important as you say. if all those things line up and we're talking about some pretty big ifs, i'll be ready to buy the stock market if we get good gdp number and solid unemployment number, that hasn't happened yet. >> there's another way to quickly look at it. if you get that seven basis point jump o
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